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@  KeyMe : (20 April 2014 - 02:21 PM) Oh lol
@  Heather : (18 April 2014 - 03:45 PM) Cant get em in france... So everyones to eat a cream egg for me!
@  Heather : (18 April 2014 - 11:03 AM) @keyme, i think its spam? :-/
@  KeyMe : (17 April 2014 - 08:06 PM) OMG! Miguelmac, there is no way that bird should be having any sort of chocolate, it's highly poisonous to animals including birds.
@  Jennywallace513 : (17 April 2014 - 02:11 PM) My African grey is really moulting the worst yet, should I be worried? She is a really happy bird so I don't think its stress she is 6 and lives in the lounge with us a 4 doggies and bud the budgie!
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@  bobbie : (10 April 2014 - 07:12 AM) Heather, no longer than 90 mins, less if really warm.
@  Heather : (09 April 2014 - 02:01 PM) Crushed egg and shell to he exact!
@  Heather : (09 April 2014 - 01:23 PM) How long is safe to leave egg (for eating) in bird cage?
@  Heather : (09 April 2014 - 12:34 PM) Heya we use wild hazelnut branches
@  KerstinB : (07 April 2014 - 08:12 AM) hawthorne good as well
@  Julie : (06 April 2014 - 10:23 PM) U can use Rowan tree branches
@  billy : (06 April 2014 - 09:14 PM) hi can anyone please tell me what natural perches i can put in for greys other than fruit trees as i cant find any lol cheers
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#1 OFFLINE   collythorn

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:56 AM

Hi my name is Colleen. Ruby is my one year old blue and gold macaw. I want to take Ruby to live in Spain. I have contacted DEFRA and found out what I need to do on that side of things. Thomsons will fly her but. There is very little information on pet carriers for parrots. I have been researching the required types and the one I have come up with, going off Rubys crown to tail measurements is big enough to house a german shepherd dog, plus a perch. And of course the bigger the case the more expensive the flight. As anyone any experience or knowledge of flying their pets to Spain

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:01 AM

Sorry no but I think a good thing might be to contact the airline to see what kind of carrier they would recommend. Scarlett on here has macaws and sells travel cages, it might be worth while contacting her and chatting it through. :welcome: to the forum

Have you checked out this thread by Tascha?
http://www.theparrot...rrot-paperwork/

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:04 AM

Thanks for such a quick response and will do

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 10:47 AM

Good luck with it :-)

I can't help with the cage you need. But I know you need to complete some paperwork for DEFRA, you will need a vet certificate from the UK and Ruby will likely need to be vet checked on arriving in Spain. Make sure you are flying to an airport where they can have a vet ready for you - otherwise Ruby night be made to stay in the airport until they can get a vet to her.

Worth to check the quarantine proceedures for Spain as well. But I think within Europe it should be ok.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 11:28 AM

Hiya from me and Henni Penni :bye:
Ooooo travelling backwards and forwards to Spain bet that's to soak up some sun rays :biggrin: remember to bring it back here for us tho!
Spain is EU which is good (as is the canary islands) lot less complicated then other places. If you're going backwards and forwards with your bird then would suggest you "land travel" your bird it's a lot less expensive and a lot less stressful for the bird. Lets face it those cargoe holds are noisey and can be chilly and scarey even to humans never mind birdies! If your going backwards and forwards it would seem you need different paperwork to just either one-way export or import. UK seems to want to pop the birdies in to 31 days quarantine on return if correct paperwork is not supplied. The paperwork takes quite a while to get into place so make sure you give yourself plenty of time to do so. Parrot Passports are available but make sure you get your bird micro-chipped if it isn't already, plus a clean bill of health certificate of an avian vet, defra cities paperwork if required.
Did a little reading earlier :shock: like I do and thought the following links maybe of interest to you, general ex-pat website discussing parrot going out there but not back, then one by PAR which is a pet shipping company they have some really good info on their site too and the ever helpful leaflet supplied by DEFRA regarding import and export. There is another member on here but he's out to play today who knows about import / export and that's Lockey tap him up for info :thumbsup: . Anyways enough waffle here are the links:-
Ex-pats http://www.spainexpa...iewthread/8602/ I know it's an old thread but none the less useful to recontact to see what the current state of play is.
PARAIR http://www.parair.co.uk/birds.shtml lots of good info and a photo of the travel crate too!
Good leaflet from DEFRA http://archive.defra...ptive-birds.pdf
Hope everything goes according to plan and you have a lovely time.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 03:36 PM

Some excellent info there, can't add to that :biggrin:
:welcome: to the forum Colleen and good luck!!

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 09:45 PM

Hello Colleen and :welcome:

All the best of luck with your travels and do let us know how you get on :thumbsup:

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Posted 09 June 2012 - 12:55 PM

Thank you all so much especially Dizzy blue for all the information. Ruby will only be travelling the one way, then Spain will be her home. I have booked a pet travel company to drive her to her new home. Hated the thought of the noisy, cold airplane. The company will also take her cage, flat packed so that gives her a good start with her own familiar place. Thanks again for all your support, will keep you all updated on Ruby's new life in the sun, in fact will probably be picking more brains in the future

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 09:36 AM

Good luck and do,please let us,know how you get on xx

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Posted 10 June 2012 - 04:33 PM

Your more then welcome just hope it was of some use and the move goes really well. Will look forward to you coming back on here and telling us all about it and a picture of you all soaking up the rays :thumbsup:

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 09:20 AM

Hi just thought I would jot down a few line's, just passing the time waiting for Ruby to poo, a requirement of the application for her move. Then its jetting up the motorway to Manchester with said sample. I changed Ruby's Diet on Sunday to the complete food Kaytee.exact. She seems to love it, only difference I have noticed is that her head feathers seem to be fluffed up more of the time, even without the usual flattery and tickles, any thoughts on this. I am wondering also if I should continue with her calcium drops in the water, it states no other vitamin supplements needed ?

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 10:55 AM

If she`s not laying eggs I wouldn`t give her extra calcium if she`s on pellets no.
Fluffing up can be a sign of illness so keep an eye on her, can`t say ours ever fluff their head feathers up more than normal.

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Posted 12 June 2012 - 08:34 PM

Nico rarely has her head feather up so yeah keep an eye xx

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 06:32 AM

Hi everyone, its with great sadness and many failed attempts to pull everything together to get Ruby to Spain, I have decided I need a new home for Ruby, and she will not be able to travel to Spain. I am sat here so early because I have spent the last few nights awake reaching this decision. If anyone on this site knows of someone who is looking for a one year old blue and gold macaw with an amazing temperament, could you please let me know. Ruby is in the best of health, and has a health check certificate to prove it.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:19 AM

Aww. No what a shame,why can't you take her,you must be heart broken. So sorry.x

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 08:00 AM

I'm so sorry to hear that and best of luck Where abouts in the country are you?

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 08:52 AM

Hi I know it is awful, I'm in bolton, manchester. Just can't see a way round it

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:07 AM

Maybe you could put an advert on here and see what you get back xx

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 10:22 AM

So very sad. Thinking of you x

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:04 AM

How much will you be asking for her? I have a very good friend who would consider giving her a home but he takes in rescues only, he pays for beautiful aviaries and a lifetime of care.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 02:12 PM

That's sad, sure you will find her a good home...

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 03:11 PM

cant you drive over and take the bird in the car with you

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 09:48 PM

Oh that is such a shame, all the best finding a solution or a loving forever home for Ruby :)

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:21 PM

Such a shame.

If you don;t mind me asking - what problem did you encounter to taking her with you?

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:31 PM

Yes I would like to know as well as if I ever have to move back to the uk ,I couldn't leave my two here ,




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